Tish Weinstock: Why do you think that was?

Jane Moseley: I’ve always felt weird about being a girl. I was always a tomboy. I don’t even know if that term exists anymore. I think that girls have always kind of freaked me out. Especially groups of them. I think it freaks me out more to have a girl. Like this world does not take kindly to women. She's quite pale at the moment, but she's also half black. I just feel scared for her.  

Tish Weinstock: In today’s political landscape, being a woman is incredibly challenging. 

Jane Moseley: There’s also the social media aspect, in addition to politics and everything else. The dysmorphia, anxiety and regression that I felt as a result of being on social media, online or in fashion, combined politics and everything else. My general fantasy for her is that she's grounded, not as a punishment, but as a lifestyle. We live in Los Angeles, which isn’t ideal for curbing those horrible things, but we have pigs and chickens, and I have a donkey and cats and dogs and all sorts of creatures that I've amassed over the years. It would be great for her to just touch grass and be outside. Things that sounds like hell when you're a kid but I think ultimately, gives you a sense of purpose, esteem and perspective.

Tish Weinstock: Your connection with nature feels very witchy. What role does it play in your life?

Jane Moseley: Being in nature is very soothing. It’s a huge part of my life. I always knew I wanted to have a lot of animals, to have proximity to nature. Growing up in LA, my dad would bring me outside a lot. If I was being a tyrant, or super hyper, we would drive to the hills, and he would tell me to run up the hills until I was exhausted. We’d be hiking outside somewhere, and he’d see a cool natural phenomenon and he’d always point it out and help me appreciate how special the natural world is.

Tish Weinstock: In addition to the natural world, you also have a deep attraction to the supernatural. Can you tell me a bit about that?

Jane Moseley: I’ve always had a fascination with witches. When I was a kid, I would take all the spices from the spice rack and mix them into a potion. I’ve always loved Goya's paintings of witches. In culture, they were relegated to the evil characters, but they just sound like they were smart women who did their own thing. Anyone who is sort of an outlier - I’ve always been interested in. I also grew up watching horror movies and listening to rock or metal.

Tish Weinstock: Because of your dad?

Jane Moseley: Yeah, I’m sort of a nepo baby of horror. I tried to minimise it, when I was scared that it wasn’t cool when I was a teenager. No one I was friends with was into horror movies or going to shows with me. So it felt uncool, but it was something that I still loved. Obviously, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve found my tribe and it’s awesome.

Tish Weinstock: What is it about the macabre and the darker side of things that appeals to you?

Jane Moseley: I historically identify with ‘the other’ or the tortured characters. I think that has always been interesting to me because it just feels more honest. I always think that death and violence are very much a part of humanity. It's about reconciling the anxieties and painting them in a more fantastical way. I also think there is something beautiful about myths and stories, just to justify the unknown. The macabre and gothic, the superstitious and all that is a way for human beings to make sense of things.

Tish Weinstock: Totally. We are living in tumultuous times, particularly where women are concerned. What advice would you give to younger women - maybe your daughter even - about how to remain resilient and hopeful?

Jane Moseley: I think my advice is just that with all of the dark shit, there is also some really beautiful shit. And although human beings seem to be really destructive, we are also creative and to just focus on that, because otherwise it can get very overwhelming and demoralising and nihilistic.